Reimancy: water to ice

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Reimancy: water to ice

Postby Ignatius on April 15th, 2013, 11:24 am

I was wondering about this for a while.

With Reimancy, can you make Ice from water by making your Res slow down the molecules on water?

I read the the lore that Air and water make ice, but I'd thought I'd ask if this was acceptable
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Reimancy: water to ice

Postby Raven Nightfoot on April 15th, 2013, 11:44 am

Hey, I think I can answer your question. I'm pretty sure you can't since ice is a hybrid element, because it requires more than just compressed molecules to create ice, the molecules must be at a very low temperature as well.
I could go into a big technical rant about the reasonings, but I'd just be finding a long unnecessary way to say the same thing. Although, creating mist might be possible by spreading the res into a thin gaseous form, but that's mist NOT steam because steam is another hybrid element.
That being said. there is a difference between steam and mist. Steam being more harmful in that it can be used to scald something OR if compressed, can be quite powerful when used at high pressures. Whereas mist is of course generally neither warm nor cold and if compressed just becomes water.
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Reimancy: water to ice

Postby Ignatius on April 15th, 2013, 11:56 am

I see... so if I were to slow the molecules down, I could only make the water close to freezing, or extremely cold. that's a good point you're making about the elements, I might have to think about this for a while :P
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Reimancy: water to ice

Postby Raven Nightfoot on April 15th, 2013, 12:01 pm

I'm pretty sure that's about it, but I'm sure someone more intelligent and more qualified will reply to this in a short while.
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Reimancy: water to ice

Postby Ignatius on April 15th, 2013, 12:03 pm

Thank for your help :D
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Reimancy: water to ice

Postby Clyde Sullins on April 15th, 2013, 1:49 pm

You can make ice from water, using Reimancy, but you would need to already be able to create ice. So you would need both the water and air elements, which allows you the para-element of ice. So Raven is right, having water available, does not allow you to skirt one of the requirements to create ice Reimancy, the para-element.

I would imagine using your res and some ice Reimancy, to freeze water, would be more efficient than straight up transmuting res into ice, but less efficient than starting with ice, and using attraction to control it.

I also think steam is possible, possibly using water and fire, but I think it might require Glyphing to combine them. Glyphing does allow you to combine things, that traditionally do not go together.

Of course, if you are a Reimancer, you should already be learning Glyphing anyways, shouldn't you? :)

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Anywho, as a afternote, the thing you are freezing also comes into question, as to the difficulty and djed usage.

For instance, ice cold spring water, freshly bubbling out cold, would be easier and less costly, than say warm water that has been sitting in a waterskin all day. So current temperature might make a small difference.

Along with that, is the freezing point of the material. Pure water freezes much easier than for instance salt water. Salt water is really hard to freeze, and requires really low temperatures. Which is why the oceans so rarely freeze. That along with it being so big. So larger quantities of water would likely also be harder to freeze than smaller samples.

Though really, you could freeze anything. Who wants a ale pop?
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