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A city floating in the center of a lake, Ravok is a place of dark beauty, romance and culture. Behind it all though is the presence of Rhysol, God of Evil and Betrayal. The city is controlled by The Black Sun, a religious organization devoted to Rhysol. [Lore]

Harder Than it Seems

Postby Redd on June 14th, 2014, 3:10 pm

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Redd felt a wave of passion flow over her as she tasted him upon her lips and she wanted nothing more to feel his claiming grasp, to feel his heated body pressed against her own. This feeling was very much like the feel of a hunt, the excitement burning through her body and the only thing that could satisfy that excitement was the fulfillment.

However brief it was, the young woman felt him step away from her, successfully ending their kiss and she trembled before him. Her grasp upon his shirt lifted as her hand went to her lips, her fingers sliding along her bottom lip as she drew in quickened breaths. Even her fingers shook as her heart raced.

Questions filled her thoughts as she began to wonder why he would break such a kiss, why he would step away from her. She brought in a deep breath, feeling her lungs expand with the oxygen and she was very much still aware of her heated form as she tried to quell her trembling. It was only a brief moment as she wondered what had gotten into her, when her hazel hues caught sight of those muddy coloured eyes again.

He was glaring at her with an intensity that could make anyone weak at the knees, but she would not bow down under that stare as she managed to lick her lips, savouring her master's taste upon them. However, this glare that shone within his eyes was something she had not seen before and it almost made her quake underneath it.

Her soft lips had parted to speak his name when she felt his arm slide around her waist while his free hand cupped her face. His touch was burning to her skin and she almost melted under it, almost. She was suddenly yanked towards him and her hands pressed firmly to his chest as a small surprised gasp, passed her lips.

The young woman felt the hand upon her cheek move to her hair, sliding in amongst the brindled tresses before she felt his hand fist. Barely having any time to register this fact, her head was jerked back, her hazel hues seeking out those muddy ones.

It didn't hurt, not really, in fact it only served to excite her more and her fingers angled inwards so then her nails would bite into his chest. Her tongue darted out to lick her bottom lip once again as she felt the burning of their bodies, pressed together. She was fueled with a sudden need to be close to him, closer than their clothes would allow.

However, she knew, as his eyes glared into her wide ones, with his hand fisted in her hair, holding her head back to meet his unwavering gaze and while his other hand held her form pressed to his own, that she was at his mercy. Deep down, to her, it just simply felt right that it was he who took control. He was, after all her alpha. He was the one that controlled her, told her what to do and she wouldn't have it any other way. Her breathing came in jagged as she licked her bottom lip once again before he claimed her lips once again with his own.

His body felt searing hot to her, even his lips as his tongue forced apart her lips in order to gain entry. Her tongue darted out to meet his in a battle, a small one but it was a battle of dominance all the same.

While his free hand was rough, harsh and sometimes painful, each of these movements brought out a whine or a soft growl of pleasure. Her right hand slid up along his chest, only to then slide along his shoulder and up along his neck, before her fingers sunk a grip into his dark locks. Her left hand simply slid around his form, her palm pressing to his back as she pressed her form firm against his.

Her body burned with want, with a rising need and only he could give her what she wanted. However, she wouldn't just hand herself over to him, not in this battle. He knew and she knew, that in this battle between them, as alpha, he had to take what he wanted, he had to make her submit to him. In body and spirit.


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Harder Than it Seems

Postby Elias Caldera on June 16th, 2014, 11:27 am

There was a fever that raged within the young man, something dark and hungry and barely controlled as the two kissed with a desperate urgency the Elias had rarely ever known. It was a carnal desire that was quickly spiraling out of the Ravokian's control as he listened in exhalation to the name of her chosen master drip off Redd's moistened lips. Tongues intertwined in fierce, sultry combat soon after, fighting and wrestling until the mage broke away, trapping her quivering lower lip in between his sinking teeth until the pull drove her mad. Her hands had begun tousling his hair and circling over his shoulder as the throws of passion overshadowed the two of them. Now they both glared at each other with the eyes of predators. As lightning passed between their fumbling touches, Elias knew exactly how their dance would end however, because there was only one who could come out on top. He would win. He would dominate.

His grip on her brindled hair weakened as strong, rough hands soon fell to her backside, kneading and squeezing while he pressed a kiss against the delicate skin of her neck, his mouth dancing furiously over the bruises her own foolishness had caused. As he tasted the red hot sting of her damaged skin, Elias knew he had to put an end to such harmful tendencies soon and by whatever means necessary. There was a long and arduous road splayed out before the Ravokian, one in where he had to reshape both the physique and psyche of a woman convinced she was only right being an animal in the wild and little else. It was a daunting challenge to be sure, but Elias was yet to decide whether this unbridled passion he now shared with the voluptuous slave was going to harm, or help his goals. He decided that if he could, he would take more from this moment of reckless abandon than just the satisfaction of thunderous lust finally sated. Powerful hands spun Redd around with such suddenness then that her master doubted she would have known what was happening until she felt his body pressing into her back and forcing her up against the desk they had been using not moments before.

Elias already had the kelvic's loyalty, it was something the girl demonstrated near daily with her reverence of him, but now he needed more -demanded more- of her. He wanted Redd's commitment. This wasn't going to be a struggle he could overcome without her fully dedicated to not just Elias, but also his wishes and expectations for her. As his slave, his symbol of status and power with Ravok, Redd would have to become more than what she was now. She would have to willingly adopt and share the same drive that fueled Elias Caldera on a daily basis. The kelvic had to want to be better, constantly, endlessly, and she would be. Redd belonged to him now, there was no longer any doubt about it, and that changed a great deal whether either of them truly understood it or not. "If you thought this would free you from your lesson, you were sorely mistaken, slave." He growled over her shoulder, towering over her slender frame with an air of unquestioning force that left little room for defiance. A hand cupped her chin, guiding her succulent lips back to his own as he embraced the woman in another deep and passionate kiss. His hands refused to remain idle as well, first trailing across her stomach and sides, raking up her shirt and the shivering flesh it hid before eventually coming to rest upon her breasts. Once there, Elias began grabbing and pinching the sensitive skin beneath the fabric with the same fiery earnestness he had show helpless to restrain himself against before.

At first he had thought it strange and perfectly lewd how she simply refused to ware any garments underneath her usually clothing. As it dawned on him how restricting and trivial such things would become to a shape shifter however, he had almost blushed at his own idiocy. Now though, he was perfectly content with his slaves lack of modesty. In fact, he was counting on it. Elias's hands reluctantly undid the delicate grips they had placed upon Redd's hardened buds, allowing one to wander down back across her stomach and slip beneath the hems of her simple black pants. The other took her by the back of the neck and fiercely pushed her forward, forcing Redd unto her stomach and across the desk until she was entirely prostrate before her master. Much of the objects upon the table went scattering across the floor with a startling crash as the slave instantly replaced them as the most important thing in the room. The bulge of his manhood now strained and ached against the confines of pants that could barely contain him anymore. Redd would feel its throbbing need press into her from behind, two infernos colliding but yet still woefully denied. With slick fingers teasing her just between her legs, and his member hard and eager not far behind, Elias was certain he had kelvic's undivided attention. If she fought him though, which he hoped she would, the brindled haired beast would find his grip upon her tighten painfully with both hands, pushing her into the desk until she submitted to strength of her better.

"The journal" Redd would suddenly be reminded, her attention going to small leather bound book conveniently laying in front of her upon the desk. Pressed into the wood as she was, it would be difficult to get a good luck at it, but upon its page had been one of the words the Ravokian had written out earlier for his student to say. "He wants me to say it." Would be her next, abrupt epiphany as shaped djed seeped into her very thoughts. It was no surprise that Elias's aura now erupted to life with arcana, both from hypnotism and the auristics he had taken to using as he examined the alluring wolf in way so personal it was near impossible to truly explain. There was a sudden and powerful thrust from the tyrannical man forcing her down and leaning behind her, as if the emphasize the thought. "Say it!" He commanded, a horse groan born from the depths of his rumbling chest. There was only one word on the sheet of paper, only one one word for the kelvic to focus on entirely. It would be a difficult one on her part, but with its very utterance Elias would know Redd was ready for the kind of life he would give her, ready for the kind of life he expected of her. A word that once spoken would drive the mage to the brink where there would be no return. As a man would take her as a woman then an there, like a storm of fury and passion unleashed, marking the slave as his own for the rest of her life. No more thoughts of selling her off, no more wondering how much he could make at the auction. Redd would be his if she could just manage to say just one thing, and prove there was the spark within.

It was a word she had used almost every day since the two had met. A word she had grown comfortable and content with. A word that would define her future.

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Harder Than it Seems

Postby Redd on June 17th, 2014, 2:56 pm

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Redd growled softly as she felt him bite her bottom lip and then pull, her own hazel gaze glaring at him with a strong determination. One that meant she wasn't just going to hand herself to him. If only she could just determine what was on his mind. Her body however, reacted to his touches so strongly, it was almost primal in a way, making her mind seemed to shut down so then she was only reacting to his touches.

As his grip upon her hair weakened so then those firm hands that she enjoyed so much, fell to her backside, kneading and squeezing while her head simply rolled backwards as those heavenly lips pressed to her bruised skin. Her grip upon his hair weakened at this and a groan of sorts passed her soft lips.

She hadn't realized what had happened until she was pressed up against the desk that they had been using only a few moments ago with her master pressed firmly against her back. He had spun her around so quickly that she had been momentarily thrown out of sorts, blinking as she had slowly caught up with had happened. Her hands resting upon the surface of the desk in front of her.

"If you thought this would free you from your lesson, you were sorely mistaken, slave." He seemed to growl at her, his large form towering over her smaller sized one. His domineering presence, left little room for doubt of his words. Lesson? Her mind had been in a haze as she had left her thoughts behind a long time ago, only feeling with her body, allowing the sensations of those domineering hands to trace, cup and squeeze her form. However, as the thought came to mind, his hand cupped her chin only to bring her head around so then her lips could be captured by his own in another passionate kiss.

The woman felt his hands trail across her stomach and sides, before raking up her shirt to settle upon her breasts. She shivered into his touch, craving his heated touch against her own heated skin and her body leaned into this. He then began to grab and pinch the sensitive skin, this making whimpers burst forth from within her as her nails raked down against the desk.

It was as if he knew where to touch, where to cause pain and where to just allow a soft caress flutter across her skin. It left her wanting, no, needing for that heated and all knowing touch. It was as if he knew just how to handle her.

As his grip upon her breasts was released she tried to leaned back into him, wanting more. Instead a hand slid inside of her black pants. His other hand however, wrapped around the back of her neck and she was suddenly forced forwards onto the desk, flat onto her stomach. Her hands scattered the items that had previously occupied the desk's surface sending them crashing onto the floor. His fingers worked their magic along her entrance and she wanted nothing more than to give in to her body's desires. However, she knew this was a situation where she had to fight, she could no longer be the mindless toy that he had been playing her out to be.

A growl settled upon her lips as she tried to ignore the fact that his manhood pressed into her from behind. Oh how she just wanted to give her master what he wanted, but she couldn't be the weak minded wolf played by her own body. Sliding her hands down so then the palms of her hands rested against the wooden surface underneath her, she tried to push her form upwards, against the hand pressed against the back of her neck.

Pain lanced through out her form as this made his hand grasp more firmly around her bruised neck and her fractured ribs protested at this. She continued to struggle against his hold for a couple of chimes before she finally slumped her form against the desk's top. He was strong, even more stronger than she was and she was helpless within his tight grasp, she realized as she panted with desire and pain, finally being forced into submission by the sheer power of his strength alone.

"The journal" The thought sprung into her mind quickly as her hazel gaze flickered to the book, lying just in front of her form upon the desk. She struggled against his hold to get a good look at the page that it was on and there, laid only one word. "He wants me to say it." Came another thought and her tongue darted out to wet her lips, her gaze flickering over the letters of the word presented there. It took her a couple of chimes, but she thought she got what it was. It was a word she had said many times before.

Suddenly a powerful thrust from behind, forced her further down onto the desk with him pressing his form against her own, jolted her out of her mind. "Say it!" She could feel that throbbing manhood of his and her own desires slick upon his fingers, but she knew that if she said this word, this word that was presented upon paper now, it would mean a whole lot more than it had before.

A whine passed her lips as she closed her eyes, if she said it now, it would be the end for her. There would be no one else for Redd but Elias, she would never leave his side until her dying breath, serving at his will. If she said this word now and she was faced with the sudden loss of him in the future, she would not survive. It would completely destroy her.

After a slow pause, her tongue darted out once again, but her form quivered underneath his frame. She knew she didn't have any choice, she had to say it. No, she wanted to say it, she realized as her beating heart raced within her chest. Her voice was soft, but her convictions were true as she finally spoke the word that he had so wanted to hear voiced from her very lips.

"Master."


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Harder Than it Seems

Postby Elias Caldera on June 20th, 2014, 6:56 am

The lone word was nearly deafening as it washed over his barely throttled figure. Its utterance had bathed Elias with a fiery bliss that threatened to sunder the young man's very being the moment it left her lips. With it, what little was left of the feeble dam stemming the tide of his passion crumbled and was washed away all in an instant. Nothing was left now to hold back the boiling ocean of lust that had been building and building inside his chest since Redd had first dared to kiss her master. Elias fell upon her then like a beast would upon prey. Spirited hands flew to her taught waists, grabbing hold of supple flesh and squirming muscles beneath. An instant later and the girl's pants were ripped away and forced down around her ankles, freeing the kelvic of her mundane restraints as Elias forcefully rammed his still confined hips against hers. The table groaned and rattled in haughty protest once again. He wanted her wholly and completely at that point, for their joining to be as meaningful as it was maddeningly intense. The Ravokian would settle for nothing less. Her drowning scent had caught him like a viper's vice as he had hastily disrobed her, taking hold of his already stifled thoughts and gripping them even further until it practically pained him to think of anything else but that moment, and that woman. His mind felt addled with the maddening spell she had placed upon him with every subtle and unsubtle thing she had done to attract his attention. The growls, the whimpers, even the way she said his name, it had all come together in a dizzying concoction that the two now found themselves greedily drinking of. The mage had never been blind to it all mind you, he had simply resisted with a intransigence that now felt impossible to ever fully replicate again. Whatever defenses he had once managed to shore up against the wild, hazel eyed vixen were long overrun and utterly destroyed. She was just too much to fight off anymore, and Elias couldn't rightly bring himself to try.

One hand remained fastened around her neck, pushing her firmly into the desk as the master breathlessly readied himself for what was soon to come. His fingers worked impatiently upon his own clothing, desperate to strip away the last vestiges of modesty that barred the two from their powerful urge to join as one. Yet for all his vast arcane powers and unbearably distraught longing, Elias could only fumble and fail with the bindings of his damnable belt. The petching thing defied his attempts to unclasp entirely, as if girded by the power of mockery itself. With an anguished growl, Elias abandoned the pursuit, his desire and drive too strongly reminding him that to be apart from the wolf for more than a tick was to be apart for a tick too long.

Arms corded with muscles that hadn't seen such fervent and worthwhile use in a long time wrapped around Redd's taunting waist and flipped the slave over unto her back so that her legs were wrapped around him and that the depths of her longing gaze were reunited with the flames of his own. It was a look of such momentous need that it suddenly reminded Elias of who exactly it was that his body was now entangled upon. She was the fierce animal, the wild beast that intrigued and toyed with his primal nature. Redd was exotic, unique, stunning, and as she looked up at him from upon the hardwood desk, waiting to be lead and domineered, he knew it was time. Leaning in over the yearning kelvic until his tongue hovered tantalizingly over her ear and his breath stung hotly against her neck, Elias whispered words just as sweet and smoldering with hypnotic potency as they ever were. "You are mine now."

His hands guided their way down across her savory bottom and upon her tense thighs, grabbing hold with a prevailing grasp that soon had Redd lifted clean off the table and eventually resting solely around Elias's waist as he carried her across the room. Another hungry kiss embroiled the two in a carnal struggle as the Ravokian teetered backward, his feet finding the bed before spinning around. The two of them fell into the waiting sheets in a tangle of flesh and moans. Elias's shirt had disappeared somewhere along the line and so had Redd's, leaving her beautiful skin entirely exposed and ready to be subjected to his whim. He lifted himself above their embrace before he became too lost within however, rising over Redd while he pushed her back down flat against the bed with a commanding touch. With a yank of her hips, Elias wordlessly brought them against his own until the coursing heat of her core rested upon the hammering manhood still trapped within his trousers. The mage refused to take his eyes from the wolf even as the two collided, his glare full of unrestrained desire and thoughtless power. If only he could get these... damn... pants off! There was a snap and click from his buckle as it finally surrendered to his adamant attack. With a wicked and victorious grin, Elias was just beginning the big unveiling when all of a sudden there was a knock at the front door.

Furrowing his brow, Elias whipped around to stare at the thing, knowing it had to be a trick of the mind. Certainly there could be no bastard knocking at his door, at this time! There came another knock, this time more insistent, as if it weren't just the second, but only the second he had managed to hear during all the... "Mr. Caldera." Came the muted voice from the other side. He knew that voice. "Go away, Tarsin!" Elias practically roared back, returning his attention solely to the woman before him with disgruntled sneer. Another knock. "Its a matter of urgency I'm afraid." The man said after an uncomfortable moment of contemplating silence. "There is a letter for you here newly arrived, and I really must insist we discuss the details of the spare room you wish to hire for your use, you see its not entirely as simple as you tried to make it. There is also the troubling concern that I'm not entirely sure you paid the correct amou-"

"Alright! Alright." Elias growled, instantly exasperated and deflated. A hand had found its way to his snarling face, wiping the sheen of sweat that had begun in earnest upon his brow. He suspected what Redd's reaction to this abrupt turn of events would have been almost immediately, and so he sought to nip it in the bud - a poor choice of words at the time- before it caused him anymore of a conflict than he was already facing. He didn't need her convincing him with any agonizingly stimulating gyrations or whimpering pleas to stay put. He was barely winning against his own mental struggle as it was, he didn't think he'd win if it turned out to be two against one. A hand rested against her bare chest, pushing the wolf down and pinning her there on the bed while he set about unwrapping long, perfect legs and disembarking the mattress with a irked groan. Perhaps... perhaps this is for the best He weakly pondered. Maybe it was best that they had been stopped now before things had gone any further. Elias wasn't entirely sure anymore, but to come back later and reinspect this whole concept again with a clear head might have been best. She was just a kelvic after all, and he her master... He glanced back at Redd, his chest heaving from the strain of restraint he was forcing himself to show. Even with fat old family man Tarsin hovering just outside the door, the pounding of his loins still angrily demanded him to leap back into the bed and ravish the kelvic laying there, brimming and ready just for him. Instead, the young mage found his shirt on the floor and donned it, sealing up his pants with a bit of trouble soon after. He knew he had to explain to her this somehow lest the girl lose her mind wandering what had gone wrong. Lacing his aura with another wave of djed, the hypnotist halfheartedly flung a suggestion at her; something vague about having to earn her rewards from now on or... or something. His mind wasn't exactly in the right state to be shaping djed, let alone manipulating complex mental probes. He shook his head as another rasp at the door resounded throughout the room. "Redd this was... I'll be back later, get dressed and we'll... I- Just get dressed." He sighed before straightening himself and answering the door. He needed to think about this. All of it, and in great, painstaking detail. Yes, that's right. I need time to collect my thoughts and... right.

Elias had never disliked a man as fiercely as he did Tarsin at that very moment.
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Harder Than it Seems

Postby Redd on June 20th, 2014, 3:38 pm

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The moment that she had spoken that single word, she knew that she had sealed her fate within his hands. She felt his hands fly to her waist, his heated skin, burning along her own skin as he forcefully pulled her pants down and off. As soon as her form was released of her pants, she felt him forcefully ram his hips into her own from behind and something between a growl and a moan passed her lips as she felt his manhood press into her form. She felt the table groan and creak underneath her form from all of the excess activity going on, that didn't involve the simple every day tasks.

All that was on her mind was him, Elias, Master Elias. He was above her, around her, behind her. His intoxicating scent filling her senses as her fingers grasped the edges of the desk, her nails curling inwards to try and scratch the surface underneath the desk top. She wanted nothing more then to throw herself at him and a whimper of need worked its way up onto her lips. For the hand that was pressed firmly against the back of her neck, although that caused her pain, it almost made her want him more and frustration worked away at her as his strength kept her pinned to the desk.

Suddenly his arms then wrapped around her waist and flipped her over onto her back and her legs automatically wrapped around his waist to bring him closer to her. Her hazel hues was finally able to connect again with those muddy brown pools as she stared up at him longingly, while his was almost a glare, a fire that burned deep within him.

Finally he leaned over her, his heated body pressing against her own and it felt as if it was searing hot as she felt his breath sting against her neck. "You are mine now." She heard as a moan worked its way onto her lips. She didn't want to have it any other way, it was all she had ever strived to be, was his, ever since she had stumbled upon his path.

Redd felt his hands as they slid their way down her sides, across her bottom and then upon her thighs. Grabbing a hold of her as he lifted her up off of the table and her arms instantly wrapped around his neck as another hungered filled kiss captured her lips. That was until her back had found the soft density of a mattress and suddenly both their shirts had been thrown off somewhere along the line.

The young wolf wasn't really paying too much attention. In fact the only attention she was taking any note of, was the feel of his hands upon her skin and the weight of his form upon her own as he rose above her and his commanding touch pushed her into the bed. With the yank of her hips, they were brought to his own and a growl passed her lips as she felt his throbbing manhood, still trapped within his trousers against her heated core. She wanted him, she needed him. Her master was like her own personal type of ale and she was drunk on his domineering touch, his caressing words and the taste of his lips.

His muddy brown eyes glared with a desire and power that made her quiver with a need for and her hazel depths reflected this need. A need that he seemed to understand as his free hand fervently worked at the belt of his trousers.

However, it seemed that her needs would not be fulfilled as a knock came at the door. Her master ignored it once, but as the second knock came, followed by a voice, it only seemed to aggravate her master as he roared at Tarsin to go away. When he turned back to her, Tarsin's voice sounded again through the door. "There is a letter for you here newly arrived, and I really must insist we discuss the details of the spare room you wish to hire for your use, you see its not entirely as simple as you tried to make it. There is also the troubling concern that I'm not entirely sure you paid the correct amou-"

"Alright! Alright." She watched as a snarl found its way to his face and a soft sigh finally descended to her own lips. It was a reaction she knew too well, when someone disturbed her master, he would always become frustrated. She felt his hand press to her chest, pinning her to the bed as he forced her legs to unwrap from around his waist and left the bed to dress.

Slowly she moved to sit up, disappointment colouring her own features as her thoughts began to function once more and her body's heated sensations began to wane considerably. A sudden thought came to as she allowed her hair to fall into her face to mask her features. For now on she knew she would have to earn her master's attention and the only way she knew how, was to be a wolf.

Another knock sounded as she heard her master's voice once again, "Redd this was... I'll be back later, get dressed and we'll... I- Just get dressed." We won't talk about it later, was what she got from those words and silently she slipped off of the bed to retrieve her clothes and to put them back on. After she had successfully done that, she went about to retrieve the items that had been scattered upon the floor and to place them back upon the desk, lastly retrieving her own collar.

She had every urge to shift and cause some kind of destruction. She had wanted to snarl and howl with the frustration that ate away at her, but her master wanted her to be human and her gaze flickered to the journal still upon the desk, her fingers gently tracing the word master.

With a final sign, she removed the key from the collar and slipped it into the journal, closing it as she lifted the collar to slip it around her own neck. A soft click reached her ears and she felt the bruise cling to the collar once more. With this simple action, she had removed her own urge to shift, knowing that if she tried, she would only strangle herself.

Finally, she crawled under the desk, curling up into a ball as she closed her eyes. She hadn't felt the confusion that seemed to follow her under his searing and domineering touch. However as he moved away and thoughts began to enter her mind, she felt confused and then once again, she began to feel like her old self. Too animal to understand the complicated human ways, this just being one of them.


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Harder Than it Seems

Postby Abstract on July 4th, 2014, 9:20 pm

Grade Awarded!

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Award :
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~ Observation – 3
~ Investigation - 1
~ Reading - 1

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~ Shifting with a Collar Hurts
~ Rhysol: God, And Protector of Ravok
~ Elias: Love

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~ Auristics – 1
~ Observation - 3
~ Philosophy – 2
~ Rhetoric – 1
~ Teaching – 2
~ Persuasion – 1
~ Hypnotism - 2

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~ Teaching a Kelvic not to Shift
~ Redd: More than just a slave

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Um. Alright. I wasn’t expecting this… but… sure. That ending was hilarious, though. There wasn’t much to award to Redd, though Elias used a variety of skills through the thread, so you got those.


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