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Gadgeteering Question

Postby Tillie Brewer on February 20th, 2016, 1:25 pm

So I had a quick question concerning weapon modification.

So it states clearly that you can start building siege weapons at tier three, expert level. I am getting the vibe that it's like building something never before seen from scratch.

But what about modifications to an existing weapon?

Like could you put a scope on a siege crossbow? Or would you be limited to say putting said spyglass on a heavy crossbow until you reach expert level.
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Gadgeteering Question

Postby Clyde Sullins on February 20th, 2016, 4:45 pm

Considering siege weapons and such are a, relatively speaking in Miza terms were all tech is rare to an extent, a well established and invented thing, I wouldn't say L3 is the equivalent of making things never before seen.

L3 is where you can in turn make either much bigger things, which is when said siege weapon sized weapons becomes possible, or much smaller and miniaturized and more complex items can be made. Most of these would be things you'd seen or heard of before, and know can be made. Your just making them bigger or smaller than before.

I would think making crazy or innovative things is more in the realm of L4.

That being said, I don't think "inventing" a crossbow scope would be such a crazy or innovative idea. You see a spyglass, see a crossbow, and think, "Oh, what if I slapped them together?" Not really so crazy, and so likely possible at lower levels.

However there is a difference between having a spyglass slapped onto a crossbow, and having a working and functional(useful) scope that actually allows you to aim better at longer distances. Just sticking a far seeing device onto a weapon doesn't do that.

That, making it functional in that way, is what would likely "in my mind" take a higher level gadgeteer(possibly L3 or L4), along with trial and error and a firm understanding of how both contraptions work.

You'd likely need to know how to make both, and you'd need to be able to make unique variations on them for the desired effect, as the standard copies of either likely wouldn't do, as they aren't made for this. You'd end up with a unique instance of each item, which can be put together for the specific desired effect.
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Gadgeteering Question

Postby Syri Morphgaze Terras on February 20th, 2016, 4:47 pm

There are a lot of ways you can justify it if you must. Learning under an expert gadgeteer, studying siege weaponry in Syliras, divine inspiration (Harameus, Izurdin) or research and genius, someone like Leonardo Da Vinci.
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Postby Tillie Brewer on February 20th, 2016, 5:33 pm

Exactly, so it's just a matter of evolution as you start creating innovations to the original design from mounted spy glass to accurate sighting scope.
And one size wouldn't fit all as say a light crossbow has less range then say a heavy or siege crossbow therefor the differences in distance would drastically alter the bars on the crossbow scope as the pitch would be different on all three.

Thank you both for your helping me out on that, when I start Gadgeteering I want to make sure I'm doing it right.
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