Forming a Group in Syliras?

[Firo]

Firo would be more that happy to joining this group, assuming that here are still spots left.

Firo is well, a doppelganger, and an observant one. Given enough time, Firo could tail, eliminate and steal the identity of an enemy/target (eliminate is optional). Great for covert style jobs, or if an Inside man is needed.

[Crypt]

Good answers! Let's try organizing them here. Firo, you're welcome to join as long as you can help out - I think we should try to have as many members as possible, but only a few will be assigned to each job; OOC, this will let the thread progress faster, and IC, this won't be wasting resources

Do try improving on the ideas below, and we could start on a set of tenets to follow!



1. Tenet the first. What this organisation (Might want to think about finalizing the name!) seeks to achieve.

Where the Knights cannot help, we will be there. We shall help all citizens of Syliras.

Expansion: I'd like to add on to this - the above is mostly a generalized one just to "show off" to the Sylirans. I feel that a job that requires killing will have to be on a case-by-case basis - more so for potentially illegal acts, as defined by the Knights. Other jobs shouldn't be too menial - whitewashing a fence? Doing laundry? - as there will be other more significant problems. Such menial jobs would have to be rejected most, if not all, of the time.


2. Wilderness Survival

Yep, NPCs look like the way to go. Basic-level PCs - Wade - wouldn't be able to help much. Crypt could help with some of it, being closer to Competent level than Wade is, but not much at all.


3. Relationship with Knights

I prefer to think more of ourselves as sort of the people the Knights may outsource some of their less-interesting-but-still-important jobs to.

Sounds good! So the Knights could, from time to time, decide on jobs to be allocated for the organization to do, and relay it to Ronan. Ronan, a problem with being the liaison is that Ronan would have to stay in Syliras most of the time - it might affect your trading. If possible, if it adversely affects your income, we could have Ronan as a paid 'employee' in the organization - you could have your own cute secretary. ;D


4. Headquarters

An apartment to start from would be best - we'll PM Accolade once this organisation gets into shape to see if we could get one. Worst case scenario, PCs'll have to pool their money together to purchase one from the Housing Authority. I'm sure some of you members would have permanent housing in Syliras, so that could be something to work from.


5. Income

Yeah, donating some funds would be excellent. I believe what Genryuu mentioned would be best - we could change that later on. Let's make it something to work towards for now.


6. Masks

Both of you have excellent points there, Genryuu and Ronan. But I'd suggest going with something not so fearsome, but something easily noticeable. Unique masks could help with identifying people. But there's a slight problem with using masks in public - connecting with the public will be harder, since they can't put a reassuring face to the members that help them. I'd suggest something else, like a brightly-coloured decorated sash or headband or bandana, but it's up to you all.


I was wondering... Accolade! If you're reading this, could the Rogue Knight be somehow involved with this?

By the way, Genryuu, you might want to start a Plotnotes thread here to start keeping track of all we've discussed before. It's a good place to start, and we'd best start now before this thread runs to a hundred posts!

As for the problem with inactive PCs, I propose we wait a duration of a season before kicking their names off the members' register. Thoughts?

I think that's all we need for now. This is just to see who's been keeping up with the thread and is still interested. Cheers! Good night!

[Sicha Verpisaen]

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[Crypt]

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[Gossamer]

Not to be a party pooper, but upon reading this whole thread I'm shaking my head. As the creator of the Syliran Knights and Syliras - the whole concept - the original post in this thread holds quite a few inaccuracies. Basically, we all know how the Syliran Knights uphold justice and order within the walls of Syliras with an iron fist. More than a 500 yards outside the walls though? Not so much. It hardly matters that people die or get injured outside the city of course, as it just makes the safety and security of the city all the more apparent and attractive. The Syliran Militia/Order of Vagabonds (not sure which name i like better, or maybe some other one) is basically a group of people that functions in a way similarly to the historical Templar Knights. They help maintain order and peace in areas too far from the regular jurisdiction of the regular Syliran Knights, often ensuring safe passage of merchants and travellers, foiling the schemes of slavers, bandits and wildebeests alike. This is absolutely not true. They patrol the whole of Syliras, the Kabrin, and the roads going east and south. They patrol the farmlands and control the areas where people live, travel, and work. The knights would NOT tolerate a citizen militia in their domain. They get messy, can politically counter the Knights authority, and undermine the principles of Syliras. Knowing the Knights as I do, they would find the leader of this group and execute him publicly for even trying to organize something like this. Besides, organizing groups OOC isn't going to get your group formed IC. You can't just boom manifest a group IC that you plotted and developed OOC. It needs to come IC and through gradual RP. Radiant is a new AS and is enthusiastic that you guys are willing to generate this sort of group. But you need to understand something like this would NOT work under the principles of the Knighthood. They'd squash it ruthlessly. Alvadas already has an IC masked order as well. Not too original there folks.

[Shiyami]

Oh...oh...ooooooh..........didn't see that coming.......so...any new ideas everyone for a good get-together-stay-together party?

[Firo]

House party?

















Kidding... We could always just go bandit hunting. We make a small party every now and then and hunt the evil men/women. Kinda like witch hunting, but not as epic and not as great as the original idea.

[Shiyami]

Huuuuuur duuuuur, sounds like fun XD

[Genryuu Senkou]

Thanks to the moderators and STs for pointing out the flaws in our plans... after some discussion, Ronan and I believe that we may have to change the "group" plans ever-so-slightly. And by ever-so-slightly I mean we have to completely rehaul and give a new alternative group plan:

1) Mercenary group, not militia. So gone are most of our moral codes, ideas for helping people (except maybe occasional acts of charity) etc. We are going to just be a group that accepts money from clients to do jobs and proceed to do those jobs and then get paid. All within legal confinements and all. In other words... a pure business organization.

2) No political/righteous slogan what-so-ever, since most of the main leaders of this group (myself included) will want to keep our heads about us. Which means we will take no part in any political movements or support any political group beyond doing mercenary jobs.

Obviously, this would mean some changes as to the ethical and logistical work involved, but overall, i think the group will be just regular ol' mercenaries (part time or full time?) involved in headhunting, security, escort jobs etc.

Hopefully, we will get to keep our masks tho, because I think that could still be of use. I didn't find the lore/thread page about a masked group in Alvadas. But our masks are unique to each member (or should I say, mercenary) and we only don them in battle/on duty, so if that's still remarkably similar to what this other group does, then I'm afraid that's an improbable and unfortunate coincidence and we will have to adjust accordingly.

And obvsiously, the formation of this mercenary group-to-be will be done IC properly as well, with intial steps such as passing around of flyers, meeting up in some tavern, laying out ideas, but as with the original idea, this is merely intended to extend some feelers and see who's interested and to deal with problems such as these.

STs and Moderators: Please let us know if this alternate plan is (more) feasible.

And to those who were once interested: Every brilliant idea is gonna meet some stumbles, hopefully you will stick with us till we get through these tumbles.

[Shiyami]

Count me in till the end!!