Projection & Reimancy Interaction

[Caelum]

Hi, guys. Caelum has projection, reimancy, and glyphing, as well as number of divine gnosis. My questions pertain to how the various magics might possibly be used in conjunction with each other. I am not as well versed in the intricacies of Mizaharian magic as some of my compatriots are, and so I would be really grateful for your help! Can a projected limb produce res for reimancy? I think the answer is yes because projection relies upon the detachment of the astral body which is a layer of the soul and, as such, made up of djed. Res, of course, is a manifestation of the wizard’s djed. But is my deduction correct? Can a projected limb control and manipulate res? Regardless of whether the projected limb can produce res, I want to know if it can control res. For example, Caelum is a novice reimancer which means that he can only control his res within a few arms length of his body. However, he is competent in projection which means he can project a limb out 10-15 armslength. Therefore, if he can control res with a projected limb, then his novice reimancy skills are broadened via a different magic.

[Caelum]

Additional question! Can a projected limb pass through objects? I know a projected limb can pass through walls and doors. Can it pass through any solid object? Inanimate or animate? (I'm assuming that if it can, it still cannot control/carry the res through solid objects.)

[Ignotus Everto]

Heyo! Iggly also has Projection and Reimancy. Projected limbs can in fact be used as origin points of Reimancy. To people without the ability to see the limb, it'll look like the Res is seeping out of thin air.

I'm not sure about question #2, but as the astral body seems to count as a part of the body for the intents of Reimancy, I would lean towards yes. Very creative.

Question #3: Yes. It's ethereal, the only thing that would stop a Projected limb would be a Shield or other magic-blocker. Maybe a highly skilled Spiritist could set up a safe zone that would apply to astral bodies. A Magecrafter could probably make a projection-proof door or something. However, astral bodies will go through rocks, living bodies, frogs in jars, giant marshmallows, anything. Res will get left on the other side of a non-porous object, but it can be produced once the Projected body part is already inside the thing.

[Matthew]

To add on to Ignotus's answer, the 4th paragraph of the Overview section in the Projection article mentions this:

Some wizards use this discipline to deliver magical projectiles to their foes, for example a fireball made with Reimancy.

I would also say yes to #2. In my opinion, it would take training, since the detached limb must be trained much like a real muscle would need to be trained. In the cast of controlling and manipulating res, you would also need to specifically practice training the detached arm to do such a thing. You have probably considered that, though. I did find vague mention of such an idea in the Reimancy article:

Depending on the intended use, the wizard will manipulate the Res with their hands, willpower or other disciplines of magic before transmuting it.

I would be curious to know what level of Projection would be required for this sort of thing.

[Caelum]

Thanks so much, y'all! You have been incredibly helpful.

Matt, I expect this to be capable of even novice projectionists. The quality of the astral body doesn't alter. The speed at which it's capable of being detached, how far its reach, how strong it can push, heavy it can lift, and intricate it can maneuver does. As neither strength or dexterity is required to produce res, I think they would only be limited in matters of range and, of course, their reimancy level.

[Matthew]

That makes sense. I was somehow under the impression that Gestures were required for Reimancy, but a little research revealed that I pulled that idea out of thin air.

[Clyde Sullins]

I'd argue that you'd need to be at least competent in both of the magics, in this case Reimancy and Projection, to use them both at the same time, since most of the magics specify the fact that at novice level it takes most if not all of ones concentration to use it, its a slow and laborious process, and at novice level its not even a sure thing that a spell will be successful or that you will manage to muster the magic at all. So I'm not sure if you could concentrate on two magics at once, if you were novice in either. Maybe you could do it in pristine and calm lab settings, but I'd call that iffy, but the chances of success in live or combat settings... I'd think it wouldn't be too good. You'd be spreading your concentration to thin. Maybe if you were really high in one, like a master where a magic takes like no concentration but... Though that'd probably be limited to simpler things at competent level, since you can't really do the more intricate things that require more finesse until you hit expert projection. Shooting out a basic fireball or something doesn't take a lot of control, but the finer tuned things that Reimancy allows surely are as complex as working an instrument or a blade, which is mentioned takes L3 projection for the needed control and precision. You'd also need to be especially careful when transmuting res nearby a projected limb, for fear of attacking or injuring yourself, since magic attacks can strike a projected limb. So you'd want to get the res a good bit clear of the astral limb before transmuting it.

[Caelum]

Thanks, Clyde! That makes a lot of sense.