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[Gossamer's Scrapbook] The Ethereal Canyon

Postby Vanator on December 16th, 2013, 3:29 pm

For the record, I still think Mizahar is the best site I have ever been part of, and there are a ton of wonderful, creative, fun players and STs here. Remember, I said there are great people here, so...

Goss has never needed someone to defend her, and I admire that she doesn't hesitate to defend herself. But, over the years, there have been times I felt compelled to stand up for her. I feel qualified to do so, because I am one of the few that has been here since the beginning, knew a time when the site had considerably less 'self-entitled' players and considerably more active founders. Also, I consider her a friend, though I have not been much of one lately.

Understand this. Its a simple concept that, at one time, most people here seemed able to comprehend. This is a recreational site. It is not a business, no one gets paid to create, run or manage it. You don't pay to play here (though you are welcomed and encouraged to help pay for the expenses that allow it to exist). It is not a public service provided by your government, and playing here is in no way shape or form a divine right granted to you by your birth on this planet. This site was developed by a handful of people who loved to roleplay so much they wanted to create their own place to do it. Those wonderfully creative people have invited us to play here too. Writing here is a privilege, not a right.

So when I hear people bitching about not getting something they want because site lore doesn't allow it, or complaining about not getting an answer soon enough, or whatever you think you need, or demanding to be able to cram your ready made square character into Mizahar's original shaped hole, or self-righteously caterwalling after you were banned in chat because a brave chat mod would not allow you to be the god-given exception you believe you are, it saddens me. Honestly, it has gone on for a while, and has become almost the norm here. Jen loves this site, she has too, to spend so much time keeping it going at the expense of being able to really do what she helped create it for, so she can RP and Mod awesome stories.

Folks, RPing with Jen is what got me to stay here and to come back after I left. She made, and makes, writing magical. As a player and a storyteller, sorry, she is at the top of my list. Remember this, Goss is a player and a storyteller. Thank her every day she has deal with drama and spend time answering a load of HD tickets, our wishlists, instead of writing stories. Don't get me wrong, there are some great questions, and the lore does have holes. But please, use reason. There have been a ridiculous number of ridiculous requests that any of you would look at and go, 'WTF?' (Yes, I admit, I think I was officially the first to post a stupid question to the HD, finger is pointing back at me too).

This is a great site, relax, have fun and chill out. Waiting a few days for a reply? Write something else, engage in the real world, or go outside, sit for ten minutes in silence and listen. Good lord, if we all just shut up and listen for ten minutes, you would be amazed.

I just beat this dead horse to say, stop and think, get perspective. Stop looking at this site as something owed to you. Its not. Its the opposite. Its your privilege. You don't have to agree with everything, you don't have to like everyone, and you certainly don't have to stay. Enjoy it for what it is, not what you think it should be. There are mechanisms here to help make improvements, use them. Griping, complaining and insulting does not, will not make changes, it only makes you look small. Unpleasant, petty and small. Childish, juvenile, immature and totally undesirable to have around small. Be a big person and stick around to have fun.

So, again, I don't speak for Jen or the site, just from what I see. You don't have to listen to a thing I say. But you should.

Jen, you always have my respect. I hope I have not misrepresented you here, or overstepped bounds.
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Postby Tapestry on December 16th, 2013, 3:33 pm

Hear, Hear!

I side with Vanator.

I left my other roleplay site of almost eight years to hang out here :) This place is a fantastic site full of creative people...and honestly I don't think we would have survived very long if Jen hadn't been as active as she has been.
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Postby Kaie on December 16th, 2013, 5:27 pm

Very well said, Vanator! I think you hit the nail on the head there. Keep up the hard work, Goss. There's still an army of people here that understand the work and time you put into this site and appreciate it. Your dedication does not go unnoticed. Thanks for playing such an incredible role around here. :)
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Postby Elysium on December 17th, 2013, 2:14 pm

I think Mike all but took the words right from my mouth.

Even though you don't need it, it does help to know you're appreciated - even loved. I could go on forever testimonial-style about how this site gave me an outlet where I had none, how it gave me new friends, new ambitions and a place to go and hide from everything when things got out of hand. But none of that would be possible without the work you do every single day. I recognize that.

I hope that in the midst of all the screaming, petulant voices, the ones quietly saying "thank you" happen to be the ones that drown out the rest.
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Postby Lavira on December 18th, 2013, 3:51 am

You and I may not see keyboard to keyboard very much, Jen, but I do respect you and the work put into this place. It takes a ton of time and patience to keep it going and a lot of folks here lose sight of that. I disagree that you should have to say thank you to every little thing that happens, because there comes a time when a verbal (textual) thank you just doesn't express the gratitude, delight, or appreciation you feel at what's being/been done. For all of our unpleasantries and disagreements and ventings, I can't deny how much appreciation I do have for all you have done for me and others throughout the site.

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Postby Tapestry on December 18th, 2013, 4:12 pm

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Postby Gossamer on December 20th, 2013, 4:40 pm

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So You Can't Make People Like You
And really why would you even want too? They either do or they don't.

So its after work for me. I'm sitting here at two a.m enjoying a glass of Blackberry Chardonnay and contemplating the utterly shittiness of my day. I would explain it all to you, oh anonymous reader, but it would be too complicated of a tale to understand and it would probably paint me in a bad light fairly early on, if you don't already see me this way. Why? Well I had a sort of meltdown today. No, it wasn't a little hissy fit and no this isn't a rant scrap. But life gave me a wake up call and put some things into perspective for me so that I came to realize that I wasn't as important to some people as they were too me. Even saying that makes me feel smaller. Maybe I shouldn't say it. Maybe its not the right way to see things. And maybe how I feel is less important than how I should feel if I were a better person, perhaps more righteous.

I hate that feeling, one of being overlooked or under appreciated or easily dismissed. It comes altogether too often in my life and started at a fairly young age when my parents decided that another person's almost adult troubled teen was more important than their own daughter and shipped me off to live with my grandparents so they could be the other child's savior. My older brother got to stay. You see, the other teen, a boy wasn't allowed to be around little girls. And this was certainly true of a very young toddler even if she wasn't the prettiest thing around nor the most intelligent. So I got shipped south and raised by my grandparents, which in the end was better for me. I loved them dearly and they spent time with me and gave me attention because they were retired. They grew flowers and taught me my love of gardening and raising small dorset sheep. I could read a newspaper by three, and was starting kindergarten at five. It wasn't as if they were trying to get me out of the house. No... not at all. But my family wanted me to start school early because I was mutant tall and they felt I'd fit in better with older kids rather than starting at my age group.

I agree looking back. Back then, though, it felt like another ousting.

Back at my parents, there was a fall out, the teen got into more trouble several years later, and suddenly it was time for me to come home. Only that wasn't my home. My home was my home, and this ultimately lead me to trust issues and feelings of anxiety when big changes come about. But I spent most of my formative years with people who cared deeply and didn't let anything slide. So I'm a bit hard wired certain ways with certain fears and it tends to not be something I can overcome. I've tried, in my years as an adult, but some things are just beyond my control.

But needless to say a meltdown occurred - whether justifiable or not - and in the end nothing really changed. Why? Because people wanted what they wanted and that was that. They are getting it so more power too them - all of them - even if they don't realize how or why or maybe just think I'm batshit crazy. Maybe I am. I hope it makes them happy and I hope it was worth, ultimately, the feelings they stepped on along the way. Every day that passes on this game seems to result in me caring a little less and growing a bit more bitter. I'd take a break, but it wouldn't do any good. People are people and they are always going to look after themselves first and foremost, and that is pretty much that.

I had a thought today... unrelated to the situation I'm writing about... in regards to people that don't PM me back. Some people PM me and want things or sort of add explanations on to things they've posted elsewhere. This could be in the help desk or in the game or just to ask random questions. Now someone today PM'd me out of the blue and asked me a question. He didn't need anything. It was just a curiosity sort of question, and I enjoyed getting it and enjoyed answering it. And it honestly lead me to look at things from his perspective and try to decide why he asked the question and what he got out of my answer to his question. It didn't benefit him at all and it certainly didn't give him any depth of insight into the game. And maybe my answer, which was all of two sentences long, wasn't satisfactory to him and though he pm'd me back thanking me for the prompt response... maybe he longed for more. I won't know. I wish I did know, because looking back that was a highlight of my day.

Otherwise it was the crappiest of crapfests.

But getting back to the PMs. I have a ton of PMs in my sent mail file that have been unanswered and unlooked at. I'm going to delete them today. I also have a great may pms' that I have sent to folks (usually in response to a pm they sent me) which they never bother to reply to. I wonder... would they feel as slighted if I never replied to thier HD tickets as a result? I wish had the superhero power of knowing if someone is going to read a pm or not or if it will effect them or not so I can decide whether it's worth my time to actually write the pm in the first place... or respond to theirs. I mean... I need a response, people. I need to know you know I know that what I know and wanted to talk to you about got across or if it didn't why not and how much again do you hate me now? Okay, truthfully I don't care how they feel about me. It's none of my business... and I say that all the time. I should have taken that advice for the butthurt situation above, but in that case I cared so deeply about the people involved that I was devastated... note I said was. Wine makes every devastating situation better. I'm not so devastated now. I'm just sad and probably a little drunk because I've filled this glass a few times. And I hope they choke just a little... like maybe on some dust or run into a swarm of locusts that eat their brains.... or whatever... but that won't last long and I'll move on and things will either drastically change or they won't.

I shouldn't even be talking about this situation. But heh... its my scrap and I'll talk about whatever I want to talk about I suppose.

Do you know in all the years I've played on Mizahar I've never had a mod finish a thread for me? Tarot has come closest with one of my kelvics. He might have actually finished one or two, but I can promise you it took years to do irl if he did. Other than that every single thread I've ever gotten modded hasn't been finished by the same mod or at all? Mostly at all is the truth of it. And this is coming from a player who's PC that has THREE gnosis marks. Sad huh? It makes me think there's no hope in the world. But I've finished modded threads for others. Sure I've dropped a few too - due to rl, lame players, or things just being too much for me. So yea, I'm not perfect. I haven't graded some that have been finished as well and that's a big flaw, but they are on my extensive to-do list and I'll probably grade them someday when I want to re-read the threads for the fun of it. And maybe half of the 'not grading' thing is just me wanting toe players or player to ask me to grade it because then that means they actually cared it happened.

I once spent two years irl developing and running an extensive series of threads after threads (which I did post to daily or at least a few times a week) for a good friend who complained bitterly when i decided to retire from the site we were running them on. Don't get me wrong. I didn't do them because I wasn't getting anything out of them or because of the kindness of my heart. I loved running them as much as I think he loved posting too them. When we came over here he promised to run me a series of threads as well - Nysel themed - and managed like two or three posts before he quit. Yea.. that was a little bit of a letdown and whole lot of heartbreak. I've tried to get my PC her second mark of Nysel about six times. I've had six mods drop six different threads started for that goal. But they were friends so I forgave them. How can you be mad when people have rl come up and things get in the way. And how can you run the Cytali when you only have one Nysel mark? You really can't. Being this sort of thing requires that you have the ability to fuck with people's chavi - alter their memory, change their very beliefs and lives - and with one mark you can read the chavi and know the unknowable, but its hard to take the next step.

So I spent all day yesterday thinking things over, talking to the people that hurt my feelings, and in the end they apologized but nothing really changed. I did find out the reason though, the reason all this happened, and it probably made me more insanely mad than the events to begin with. And so I had to do some re-evaluation.

So today I let go of that dream. I had to face the reality that after this long and that many false starts I can't keep trying and keep failing because it just sucks to much fun out of things for me. Others have offered to help, but with them so busy and everyone's plates so full, who am I to demand space and time in their realities? And while their offers were sincere, there was no real bump behind them so I know there was no joy or enthusiasm in wanting to take on the task of a second mark. So I had to re-evaluate what I could do and how I could do it and came up with a plan B that didn't require any epic plots or mystical powers and instead just requires good old fashioned leg work or in the case of Mizahar... thread work. I'll build my PC's healing college, teach classes on animal medicine, and realize that dream. Its not to late ever to change dreams and change directions and do things new ways if there are old roadblocks in the way. If others want to carry on the work, I will let them do so and help them out as a mod in terms of support in any way I can. It's no less than they deserve.

I also talked about earlier how I retired all my other PCs. That's mostly true. No time, no energy, and no mod support to continue on their plotlines. That makes me sad as well. Not every storyline needs a moderator driving it, but some plot lines deserve one. And over the course of this month I've realized that I am less deserving than others are of getting those plotlines attention. I hate being the kid picked last for a team in school. I hate being the one that has to demand attention because otherwise everyone forgets to give a rats ass. And I mean, if you have a blue name and kick out, will people respond because they want to help or will they respond because they don't want you upset or unhappy. Some people would say in the end it doesn't matter. But to me it does. I want people to want to thread with me, to like me as a writer, and to get something out of our interactions to take home with them. How can you make that happen though? You can't. It has to come naturally... and for me it does not. No one will power post for three days straight just because they are so in love with the thread that they can't wait to see what happens next. Where did that disappear to? Once upon a time I was that person. I want to be that person again. But I realize it takes work on my part and that it takes me only doing so from a mod perspective because in that capacity you can give to someone, not expect something back, and they are thrilled. It is less desirable to have it happen with a PC for others, though for me that is the ultimate bomb. I don't care if its just posting a sight seeing social thread with nothing at all going on. I don't care if its just a thread that lends itself to going nowhere with nothing at its core as a goal. I want that again. I want that very very badly.

So what does all this scale back mean? It means that I have more time to mod and that means there can be a few more people out there who get to enjoy quests and moderator attention like I don't get too. Maybe I can find another fun plotline I love writing for like I did with my friend on the other site so I can keep going and have years of threads to back a storyline instead of just one or two months, weeks, whatever it takes. And it means I have time for Syka again and maybe to take over some mod duties that some of the cities that lack moderators or mod attention so I can spread that around a bit. And as for my PC, I think solos are the way to go. You can control the speed of the story, you don't have to worry about getting people to post, pushing them, thinking up plots for them, keeping yourself interesting... keeping the story interesting... all the stuff that makes writing threads with others hard.

Sorry for the long involved Scrap. I hope you didn't actually read it all the way through oh anon reader. But if you did, then grats, because you have more free time than I do. And if I wanted to leave you with one thing, its simply this.. the people you thread with have feelings. They are real people behind the scenes. And sometimes they like a little given back to them as much as they like giving things to you. Are you equally as generous in your writing? If you aren't, you should be. Oh, and just so my tyrant reputation isn't ruined behind a blubbering fool drinking wine.... if your one of those that don't PM me back, don't expect PMs in the future or HD tickets answered or any support whatsoever when you need it most. I have a long memory and I will not soon forget the fact that your courtesy doesn't merit my courtesy in those regards.
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Postby Taylani on December 20th, 2013, 4:55 pm

I have always been in awe of your writing Jen. Always. In fact it makes me super nervous to write with you only because I know that my writing is not up to par. I am sorry that you came to this point, it sucks to no end.
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Postby Wrenmae on December 20th, 2013, 5:04 pm

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My opinion on this has always been that, of all of us, you should be having the most fun.

I'm not sure if you wanted any response to your scrap, but I'm pretty comfortable expressing my opinion for the casual reader.

Jen, personally I think it's pretty low that you get rubbed raw by the storytelling crowd. Sometimes we can forget that you put all this effort into a magnificent roleplay world not just to moderate, but also to roleplay in. As a character that gets a lot of modded threads and gnosis marks, I feel pretty low after reading how hard you find it to get moderators to pay attention to you and finish the threads they start out on.

What I love about Mizahar IS the epic adventures, the god quests, and glory, the dynamic storylines...and that the person who MADE the world can't experience it in the same way I do?

:/ It bums me out.

Unfortunately, I'm not a fancy green-named fella who can offer you a thread...but if I was, I would. You deserve a freaking huge epic quest, arguably to be a Champion given your dedication to the gods and the time you've spent (more than enough for the four marks).

So I feel...limited.

When it comes right down to it, you're the most active founder on the site. Without your guidance and development, I believe Mizahar would be a shadow of what it is now. We really appreciate the work you do...but the fact is that if you stop having as much fun with it...if it becomes a job on top of your job, then you are getting away from why you built this place...and why we all enjoy it.

Personally, I think it's important for you and the other founders to rediscover your joy for Mizahar. I would love to see more Kavala quests, Cytali vs Ruv'na mashups...I'd love to see more of Leo doing his Champion-y things and...I think I might know who Gillar's character is (maybe) in which case I'd love to see her getting farther with her plots as well.

What brings me back to Mizahar every day (When I should be working), is my love of the stories and of collaborating with others. I think I mentioned that sometimes players forget that we can't all be the main characters of every story...sometimes it's nice to play a supporting role to boost another character's story up.

We're all in this tapestry of tales together, interwoven, it's how I like to view it.

I know you're a proud woman...maybe too proud to accept if one of the green or lighter green names approaches you after this about a gnosis thread...but if they do, I want you to take it.

I want you to have fun...as much fun as I'm having.

Because if you love Mizahar more, it will reflect in the lore, the story, and the forum.



You made this site.

You should enjoy it the most.

S'what I think anyways.

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